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Rev 0 on internet posting (2022-12-19)

2022-03-09 Wed. email to Roxan in reply, outlining problem with country and needing repeal of 17th amendment.

2022-03-09, Wed. I will not mind for your posting your political sign on my house property. And I am sure I can help you in developing a webpage and connecting you with the processes to get it on to the internet. Meanwhile, although you will be aligned with the Republicans,

I am a die-hard FDR democrat but consider the two greatest presidents of the 20th century to be FDR and Ike.

The problem with the current democrat party is as President Reagan summed it up in saying, "I didn't leave the democratic party, they left me." Republicans such as Marx Levin make a serious mistake in trying to equate the current democrats such as Pelosi, Cortez, etc., as being "Marxists." They are not. They are not. The are unchained democrats. Democrats who have gone rogue.

Any one who has seriously studied Marx, particularly his Grundrisse – which was written rapidly and was essentially his core thoughts written extemporaneously in the same manner as I am writing this note to you – will know that Marx early writings expressed his underlining humanitarian nature and his objections to the way the common man, the worker if you will, was being treated (at that time); and his Communist Manifesto mostly written by Engels (in my opinion based on style), was more of a repudiation of the existing capitalist system in 1848 and how the working class was exploited and mistreated – at that time. His solutions to the problem were muddled and lacked an appreciation of the GOOD side of capitalism. I want to call it "domesticated capitalism" as opposed to what many now feel is the main attribute of capitalism by naming it "vulture capitalism" which it has become and has destroyed our middle class.

But Marx Levin attacks these democrats, Pelosi, Cortez, etc. because he is a true die-hard vulture capitalist supporting capitalist who would rather see the hungry beg for food and then feed them with worms and grubs than to support even a dimes worth of increase taxes to alleviate the sufferings of others. He lacks empathy for the suffering of others as this empathy might intrude on the maximization of profits for the very few at the expense of the many. This is my opinion.

We are seeing now in 2022 the result of putting maximizing profits for the few at the expense of the overall health of society and its people, defined in the older term as "the working man." And I would add that globalization is destructive to this country and look at what it has reaped. Just consider the millions that are now homeless.

A nation that thrives on prosperity for the very few at the top at the expense of the society and its people at large will not survive. Only nations that strive for the common good and common prosperity of all its people will survive and prosper in the new 21th century.

What has gone wrong that has led this country to its current decay and possible economic and society collapse in the near future? We cannot point the finger and blame the democrats. Neither can we blame the republicans. Each in our two party system is necessary to express the positive qualities that each of the parties bring. The democrats lean toward helping the common working man and providing aid for the most needy. This is good and being a voice for the down trodden and supporting programs that help the most disadvantaged is one of the aspects that has made this country great.

But the seesaw of our two party system requires that there be a restraining element to control the passions of those who would put a chicken in everyone's pot, to build a mansion for all. The qualities expressed by the old time republican party are as important to the country as the greatest ambitions of FDR to feed the hungry masses, cloth them, provide housing for all, etc. etc. etc. As with a child's seesaw there MUST BE A BALANCE, equilibrium, homeostasis if you will. This condition, social homeostasis can only be maintained through a self-regulating process. It is the FAILURE of this self-regulating process that is the cause, the etiology if you will, of the present situation in our society and country.

Clearly our society is OUT OF BALANCE and all of its people, rich and poor, will at some time suffer personally when their world collapses due to uncontrolled instability.

What has happened to create this growing instability which may well lead to the collapse of our society at some future time not too far off.

What is missing that the founding fathers inserted in the original constitution that allowed and provided a mechanism for correction to unwise policy and legislation; what in engineering is known as a feedback loop or system of control where both positive and negative signals control stability; or in the simple case of controlling excess blood sugar levels (such as with diabetes) where the bodies pancreas provides signals to both increase and decrease blood sugar level. A control system. The founding fathers incorporated such a control system in the original design of the constitution. It is missing now.

I am a constitutional fundamentalist as was Nixon. I think the underlining root cause of our present instability and decay of our society was the introduction of the 17th amendment. Because of it - senators serve those who fund their campaigns, big money, etc. Also, it goes against the underlining intent of the founding fathers in their design of the political system.

Let me explain.

It was the intent of the founders that all power reside in "the people" i.e., "We the People..." How was this to be accomplished? The power of the people was to originate at the COUNTY LEVEL. As stipulated in the original constitution – the legislators of each state selected the senators. And how were these legislators selected? At the COUNTY level, or the local level if you will. Just as the framers set the House congressmen to be elected at the local level, though often larger than just the county level, those selections of House members were chosen by The People. By this same process the two senators served and represented the wishes of the people THROUGH the people's election of their state legislators. You cannot get closer to the "grass roots" than that. The founders intended that all power originate at "the grass roots level." That cannot happen with the 17th amendment acting as a bar to the people's wishes. Instead, now we have BIG MONEY, BIG CORRUPTION, big malfeasance which actually decides what will and won't be done. A good example today is the apparent willingness of the power elite and their senate lackeys to consider going to war over the interest of another country that are none of this nations business – while millions are unemployed, millions are homeless, the educational system is bankrupt as is the nation. And the people have NO SAY IN THE MATTER. That is the direct product on enacting the 17th amendment.

You shall reap what you sow and America is indeed reaping what it has sown.

By enacting the 17th amendment, we have corrupted the original intent of the founding fathers of this country. With the current method of selecting the state senators - whom truly do these senators serve? They serve themselves and those that fund their re-election. Thus, it becomes BIG MONEY that decides who will legislate. And it is BIG MONEY that the senators actually serve – though indeed they will deny it. They will say, "Election of senators by all the PEOPLE of the state is the most DEMOCRATIC!" But where was it written by the founders that we were to be a democracy? It was intended that this country be a strict representative form of government. By enacting the 17th amendment, the voice of the people through their representatives at the most personal and closest level – the state legislators – has been taken away. Look at what it has given us. In the most current situation, you have senators who proudly represent the interest of Ukraine and vote large amounts of money for their interests and ignore or evade the actual needs of their own state. How long would these senators – such as blow-fish like Lindsey Graham last if the state legislators were deciding who represented the people at the senate level.

Washington DC is a den of corruption brought about in large measure by the impotency of the senators to first consider their state's interest (and thus its people) and instead, in unison, both democrats and republicans singing the tunes of BIG MONEY and executive power to support the interests of other governments thousands of miles away; often giving away billions of dollars of the people's money to other nations while ignoring the needs of their own people in their own states. How long would that last if the 17th amendment was repealed and the state legislators selected the senators again? Do you think you we would see the same senator serving 30 or 40 years non-stop? How does that happen? BIG MONEY BUYS THEIR ELECTION FOR THEM in return for quid pro quo [both in legal and illegal form and illegal only when they get caught but even then, nothing is done. BIG MONEY buys power every time in the present system].

I end this diatribe with that note, discordant though it may sound to some or to many! I don't care. These are my extemporaneous thoughts quickly written down – and as Marx described his Grundrisse as being a piece of sh*t perhaps many if not most - if not all - our illustrious and ethical senators in Washington may well call what I have written and call me too - the same thing. Because often times the truth is threatening.

Best regards to you and I hope you win election for whatever cause you decide to undertake.

Nenad Cuic


2023_Jan Aadditional thoughts not part of the original email to Roxan see BU this date

to be posted on another page

And there is very little chance that the United States will restore the Constitution to its legitimate state.  What is more likely is that the Punch and Judy Puppet show of Pro Forma President Biden and Blinken the Blight will lead this country into a head-on war with both Russia and China which the U.S. cannot possibly win.

With the 17th Amendment providing the mechanism to allow unfettered corrupton, unabbated malfeasance and criminal activity at all levels of government, congress and the White House - there is NO HOPE for this country to survive at it has existed since its founding.  The United States will wither away as a legitimate state as it is no longer a letitimate Republic but is ruled by oligarchy, big wealth and huge cororations.  The voice of the people is a charade - a comedy - a joke. The citizenry pretends that its vote counts.  The counters of the people's vote pretend that they actually do the count, that it is legitimate. 

But the whole process is as the illegitimate child in the family.  We all pretend he is legitimate - we all play along with the game.  But when its time to count who inherits what - the illegitimate child inherits nothing.  In otherwords, your vote counts for nothing.  And that is due to the 17th amendment and this was intentional as was the creation of the Federal Reserve.  Both events were signed into law within weeks of each other.  First the abolition of Article I section III of the Constitution. Then the Federal Reserve Act.

The Federal Reserve is the child of total banking corruption, an illegitimate agency which is NOT a federal agency but exclusively serves the large banking interests at the EXPENSE of the citizenry. 

1 (Now posted. 2022-12-19) 1st installment. Arguments for repeal of the 17th Amendment - which removed the right of state legislators to decide the two State senators - which has resulted in wide-spread corruption in the election of senators (A personal opinion). 

Some historical facts from the Federalists Papers & T he Debate On The Constitution, Federa;osts amd Antifederalist Speeches, Articles and Letters During the Struggle over Ratification. Two Volumes. Approx 2400 pages total.

Q Is the United States of America a republic or a democracy?  With the abolishment of the 17th Amendment to the Constitution the United States became neither a Democracy or a Republic.  Rather, it is today, 2022 and probably until the U.S. A. expires, a PLUTOCRACY.

The term Plutocracy derives from the Greek word 'Ploutokratia.' 'Ploutos' means "wealth" while 'kratia' means "rule or power.". Thus, the full translation of this word is the rule or command by the wealthy. Plutocracy is, therefore, defined as a state, society or government controlled and ruled by the wealthy or a wealthy class.

https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-oligarchy-and-vs-plutocracy/

What is Oligarchy?

As mentioned above, an Oligarchy is a type of political system or government. It is defined as a form of government controlled or ruled by a small and elite group of people. Thus, this small group of people has control of the government and, of course, the entire state. A nation that has this form of government or political system is also called an Oligarchy. The sovereign power of the state is vested in this small group of people comprising of landowners, wealthy people, royalty, noblemen, high-ranking military officers, renowned academics, or philosophers.

Oligarchy is derived from the Greek word 'Oligarkhia', which is translated to mean "rule or command by a few." History indicates that rule by a few has led to tyranny and corruption, and more importantly, oppression. Although the above definition might suggest that an Oligarchy refers to control by a small group of wealthy people, it is not always the case. An Oligarchy simply means rule or governance by a privileged or favoured few. Ancient Sparta is a classic example of an Oligarchy wherein the majority of the population, the Helots, were excluded from voting. In more recent times, South Africa had an Oligarchy system based on race during the mid-20th century. This was during the period when the apartheid system was in force.