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Rev 3_2024-march-31 As far as I remember this was the start of putting together th full story of Glenn Nash - but this is not part of the 148pg hand written summary I sent to the AG in 1987. Someway I think it got lost in the clutter. The styling is via external style sheet which I had forgotten and which I had planned to use on the whole project once that external style sheet answered all the questons.
Rev 4 2024-april 1 EXTENSIVE ADDITIONS
In Search of Insanity
This is the story of Criminal Attorney Glenn W. Nash and me.
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Glenn was a good friend. For near two years I attended many of his criminal case trials. I learned a good bit about legal things. I liked him a whole lot. We were even drinking buddies. He had his Heaven Hill and I had the Cherry Vodka.
I think that is the case with any boy who is deprived of growning up without a father's influence. A woman cannot be a father to either a boy or girl. I don't think any one can know that unless he (he, she, etc.) is or has been in that situation. And in many ways he was a father figure for me as I never knew my father though I always was wanting one.
I got to know him when I was teaching Judo in exchange for Karate lessons at the Memphis Karate Academy down on Bellview Blvd.just North of E.H. Crump and Bellview Blvd. (many say he was a real crooked politician/lawyer)in Memphis, Tennessee.
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I think I escaped a life in prison by the skin of my teeth.
I was at the time a teenager, 19, a dropout from school at 16. Wild, yes. But never unkind to anyone. At least not intentionally. Fifty eight (58) years have past since those three murders happened.
[Hillmond Robbins] [name of woman in FL] [picture of G. Surrat]
In all this time I have NO criminal record or Sessions Court Stuff (In Tennessee there is Session Court for minor cases) or ANY in ANY jurisdiction. And I don't recall a driving charge in, I guess none in 30 years but a few minor things in 1980s. I have never been arrested for anything because I have never done anything to be arrested for.
I figure as how some teenager in similar circumstances, no father to teach discipline and to LOOK UP TO (you know what I mean? A boy needs someone to look up to, to respect, to emulate. It is essential for normal mental growth development and character formation.
And my having dropped out of school, run around wild with my BSA fast motorcyle with other guys simiar to me - this story, all true, might benefit that teenager becasue I still think I avoided a life in prison by the skin of my teeth.
Follow the whole story (now being written) on [now being developed finally, and it will all go into its own wep page.]
Continue with link to webpage, "And Justice for All". What would have happened, the 'outcome of a trial' had 'The Case of Glenn W. Nash" gone to trial - had Nash not been able to successfully "fake" his insanity. Well, now you join "Brer Rabbit" in the briar patch of American and British jurisprudence. You see, I knew that Glenn was NOT insane by any measure. But no judge would allow my impressions or conclusion or to develop the reason of why I held such beliefs because I would NEVER have been admitted to the witness stand as an "expert witness." Not as a 19 year old aged boy of limiited education.
- work now in progress - "Andjusticeforall.htm'l is in progress My analysis, from a legal perspective, if there are no objections from "The Bar", of what happened - will continue - for the benefit of even one rambunctiious - who may not be aware of just how easy the mouse trap of the law can snag you because of what you DON'T KNOW - but ASSUME that you DO, as is the case with most teenager who run wild.
1) This will mean understanding why if your bedroom is searched by force of a warrant - and there is found a stash of stuff that you honestly did not know was there - that you are at that moment SNAGGED by the hook of the Law. Becasue the Law will assume that you did, that you are in possession of stolen goods even though in fact you didn't steal nothing. And you will find out quickly that it will become very difficult for you to wiggle out of your situation - becasue the presumtion of the Law is that you DID steal what you are in possession of.
2) If, for instance, you are in a car, as a passenger, and in the back seat a crime is committed, and you do nothing - because, say, the perpertraiter has a knife or gun and you are much weaker than the perpertrator of this crime - and you are able to later go home - and you go to bed; and the next day you go fishing, because you feel you did nothing, so why should you worry.
Then one day the Law comes to your house and you are arrested. And now the mousetrap has sprung once again on you. Because the Law assumes you are an accomplice - even if the victim claims, "He just sat there and did noting" the presumption of the Law is that you did; you were an accomplice. You are HOOKED AGAIN. And wiggling out of the mess you are in can be quite difficult and for sure expensive.
3) Your "impressions" of something you have witnessed don't mean nothing unless it can be shown by you, and probably supported by some factual way, that they are derived from your "recollections" and NOT from what you have heard of been told. In the same manner, your opinions and conclusions or what you may "deduce" don't mean nothing to the Court unless you are one of those "Experts" and acknowledged so by the Jude preciding. It is for the court alone to draw conclusions involving the Law, and not you and not your lawyer.
It's a tough struggle you've got if you get snagged by the Law, even when "you ain't done nothing,"
Above is just three examples which Thompson on Trials (1888-1912 V1 of 4) talks about. My cost was $65. USD with $4.80 for a little faster delivery. These replicas are made in New Delhi, down near Canot Circle unless things have changed since 1975.
A Tretise on the Law of Trials in Actions Civil and Criminal Vol. 1 of 4 (Classic Reprint) PB, Seymour Dwight Thompon, $34. USD Amazon
As of March 1, 2024 you can purchase a beautiful replica of the original set, but only volume 1, and either the 1912 Ed. or 1888. I chose 1912 because it will have the most recent opinions.
You can purchase Vol. 4 at Barns & Noble for ~ 25USD.
I have no actual interest in being a lawyer and never have, honestly. It's not that I think they, lawyers, are scalawags (Nash certainly WAS and when he was inebriated and also trying a case, it WAS entertaining, at least for me, especially when viewed from the spectator's seat. Sometimes, however, he wanted me to sit at the defense table with him. Several times he was asked who I was and he said I was his investigator. I kept a straight face and at these times I did dress appropriately. On jury selection he mainly wanted to know what I thought of each person he questioned, how smart, etc. I think it was more in the way of confirmaton of what he had already determined about whether to use his dismissal options or not. Why read law if you are not actually interested in playing the game? If you go to the Barn & Noble link above the answer is here and as brief and concise as you can get. Which really is fundamental to any lawyer "brief and concise" if you are going to make it much higher in law than being a claims adjuster - which was what Nash was for a while when temporarily disbarred. I learned the imporatance of brevity in writing anything that is serious from Glenn. During my freshman required English class I typically always got A/F or sometimes B/F from each of the three Englsih teachers. (We were on a quarter system at University of Tennessee back then.) Each of them graded that way because the rule was, for instance, if you wrote a paper and it had a sentence fragment in it - you got an automatic F. But each said that the content and style was so good that I as a born writer and that they could not give me an F. I am not bragging or patting myself on the back, not when 55 years have gone by and in engineering I did just fine, made the $'s and live well in my retirement years, even after as of this writing, I have been retired now for 21 years. What then is it - the point I am making? Barns & Noble say this in the Overview on Seymour D. Thompson Volume 4.
This book has been considered by academicians and scholars of great significance and value to literature. This forms a part of the knowledge base for future generations.
I have not a clue what all the grammar talk is about. I don't know what an Adverbial Clause is, prepersitional phase, conjunctive and sometimes its a "subjunctive mood" none of that stuff and I don't care none about it either. F&$% it all! Then how did I get through engineering school with its many required technical reports; and at work the same thing but even more important since as the engineer - writing test procedrues with very high voltages involved, I mean in the 60,000 vac test volt level - instant death if your electrician got into it becasue of an unclear instruction.
At about age twelve I finally figured out how to match the letter symbols with the sound of the words, phonetics! and I had memorized most of the letters of the alphabet. It was THEN that I fell in love, literally, with reading and could not get enough.
When you cannot read you become fearful. Fearful that others will find out. Call you stupid, or think you to be so. We fear what we don't understand. If you are a late starter to reading, writing, arithmetic, hey, I never could follow the steps to doing long division. The remainer thing? Adding a column of numers, the teacher made it look so simple. Boy did she get frustrated. Her conclusion, I am sure, "He is marginal." That is polite talk.
It all made no sense to me. Yet, in my sophmore year I did learn to solve higher order differential equations and partial differential equations. Also, senior year - same too with electromagnetic theory and Maxwell's four equations. Give it a try. Do that and you'll see how an eleven year old or twelve year old feels when trying to learn "SIMPLE MATH!" and has not the necessary foundation because, in my case, I had not truthfully been to a real school until I came to USA and then jumped right in (or should I say - was thrown . . . into the 3rd grade at expensive Manhattan Walt Whitman School. This was 1954. Today on Google.com I cannot find it existing.
I have told you in these writing that I lived close to Harlem in my early years. In my Judo-Karate teaching years I also got to teach and sometimes got to know young children from the GETTO SCHOOLS of Memphis. And Benny Green of Memphis, who became one of my black belt students - opened a martial arts school himself to "help kids in his community." And Dino Papadakis, my Greek friend, and I help Benny to remodel his school and Dino helped some with the money.
Now here is my point I want to make. I saw in many of these younger students, all black negro children from the Mempis gettos, MYSELF at their age, 10 - 13 range, typcially. Because in just about every case - in this particular case, call it the sample I am discussing, I saw a loss of hope in their inner-self - the same sadness within them as I had felt - NO not because they had been REJECTED by their mother's [that was all BS about me - that my problems, my lonliness and suppressed anger - and terrible school performance - was bcause my Serbian mother had rejected me. Yet NOT ONE of the many psychiatrist EVER actually spoke with my Serbian mother who was living in the Village (Greenwhich, NYC) and gladly would have discussed what had transpired in the past; and the DEAL she had made with Ruth Downing - in, first being my foster mother and then years later adopting me, of which in writing to the Court - Radja agreed to. In fact, when Dr. Jerome Schroff, MD, the psychianalyst "treating me" ask if my mother could send to him a detailed summary of what all had happened as regards Germany, etc. and Miss Downing later - Radja compled. The doctor got the long letter, and read it to me and did not charge for that sessionl. The psychiatrist concluded to me that Miss Downing had her own neurotic need to fill. And don't we ALL!
2024-march-31@ 11:35pm
It is late again so I will conclude with brief summary and blast at the U.S. Government and its society.
The difference between me at these boys ages of which I am speaking (for at that tme rarely did girls go into the martial arts) - I had INTERVENTION and OPPORTUNITY and a decent place to live (in Memphis) which was free of danger, gun shots in the night, crappy delapidated schools, poor teaching tools, few counselors or ever one on one tutoring, all of which you must have if you are to lift up the burt child from his predicment. Do you wonder why so many black youth get EVEN with their society when that SOCEITY REJECTS THEM!
I shall retire now and if I do not forget - come back tomorrow evening and continue with my theme. Because it is now 2024, election year - and both the black community and hispanic have seen for themselves what this "black president" who claims he is ONE OF THEM, a negro, has actually done for them, NO, rather it is WHAT HE HAS DONE TO THEM! Billions of dollars uselessly given to a foreign country favored by this pro-forma president for its corruption and not a zinc filled, coppyer painted penny to try to uplift that gettos the slums, you name it. It is all a fraud and young black people are seeing it for what it is actually.
- later -
2024-april - 1, 12:05am
Today, 2023, things are somewhat easier in figuring out how to avoid getting yourself into an unintended jam when you are "running around" and having fun - when all of a sudden the mouse trap comes slamming down on your neck.
So, when you are a teenager - you are often in the most vulnerable age range you will ever be in your life - because you don't THINK the same way that you will when you "grow up." Hagar Odum
So the story I am going to try to finish is, as Attorney Hagar Odum said to me one day, "It's unbelievable." He had represented Judge Raulston Schoolfield - - [On this link is a photo picture of Schoolfield's attorney, Hagar Odum.You can buy the large copy for just $499 USD if that is what you really want to do.] - - in the Judge's impeachment trial of which the Judge did lose. Hagar also was asked to reprenent Jimmy Hoffer in that famous man's criminal case but declined. Attorney Jerry Summers of Chattanooga has written a biography of Judge Schoolfield, [ A ]available on Amazon. Jerry Summers, as with me, is still alive. When you reach my age, very near 78 now - you are pleased to hear that other people you met many years ago - still live. It gives you a sort of hope, perhaps in a morbid way, so to say.
Back to Hagar for a momentito.
I knew Hagar Odum. Not just the many things that Nash told me about him (Nash shared an office with him, but Hagar Odum always clarified with emphasis that he only provided a desk for Glenn because he felt sad for the man. That is how Hagar put it.] - - all good. But in attending Margo's trial in Hernando, MS I got to meet Hagar once more when he testified on Margo's behalf regarding Glenn's mental state (that Glenn was an alcoholic. And that is not, in my opinion, in dispute.)
But also when Hagar came to Memphis to discuss with Glenn representing him (Glenn) in one of his two Federal criminal trials (he being the defendent) and yes, he was guilty on both cases. Intersesting bit of history too. The first trial was in Chattanooga, represented by an attoryney Paul G. who was later disbared. The second trial which was held in Clarksville, MS the attorney was Paul Sorrick of Chattanooga. I also attended that trial and too became I think, good friends with Paul. He later ran for Attorney General for Chattanooga area but lost. The opposing lawyer (I forgot his name at the moment) ran a campaign which was the theme and loudly stated on the various media: This is no time to train a new district attorney. That was a clever campaign slogan. Paul lost that election. The irony was that Paul had been already practicing criminal law for over 30 years. I think the slogan caused a crick in Paul's neck. But he was always the gentleman.
The At that time, Hagar and I did talk. He was very curious about what I was doing involved with Nash and did warn me "You better stay away from this guy" referring and pointing to Glenn. And he asked me about myself, school, etc., and why I was so involved with Nash. He was surprised to hear that I was going to a vocational school.
There is more, but the time we met again when I had heard that he, Hagar was living with his mother around the block from where my foster mother, Ruth Downing was living. I went over to his house to visit him and he invited me to come in and talk. We did, at length, especially concerning the Nash case.
He did want to know why I did not testify for Margo. When I explained that it could only have been my opinons of which I could testify to as I had never met Margo and actually had never heard of her until the evening following the murder of Hilmond Robbins. Any opinions of mine to the Court would not have been permitted. Hagar agreed.
I was recently asked by a friend if Margo could get reversal in her case in view of this "new evidence." I said I did not think so. Because it was a stare decisis sort of thing, meaning in lawspeak, "Let the decision stand." First, she made the deal with the State. And generally appelate courts based their decision on errors made, such as a Rule being incorectly applied. But also because I think they would be loathe to overturn a deal she agreed to with the State when actually the decision might go the opposite way.
I attended her Mississippi trial in Hernando. It clearly came out in testimony and not convincingly refuted by Margo - that she had three opportunities to call the police when at one time she went shopping in a department store - with plenty of time to simply tell a clerk, "Miss, Please call the police. I need help!"
But she didn't do that. She had three opportunites to do so - but she didn't act. Her excuse that she was "scarred for her life" was lame at best.
Up stairs in paragraph 2) I am telling my young teen friends who might read this - well I am not sure what to call it other than my night time soliloquy - which I do often, i.e., talk to myself - rather than pray as I have arthritis in my knees . Margos defense is a case in point of 2) and I know of another case that this was the situation where the defendent "froze" during the crime in the back seat - but had several days to report to police what had happened. That would have been very credible evidence [See 3) upstairs] because the "recollection" was very very recent. This case is now almost fifty (50) years ago and the actuarial tables would suggest that most, if not all, of those involved are dead due to entropy or if they have consumed a lot of sugar or eaten hamburgers from England that this the Culprit possibly hiding in Somerset where the sun sets only once per day. The Land of Yesterday where the Sun Never Set.
Rule Britannia, Your Magesty
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You young'uns - you see what I mean by how easy it is to get yourself snagged by the Law when you are not actually an "intended" party to a crime of which your presence makes you a part by the Law and thus an actual accomplice in fact - unless you have the foresight and sense to "snitch" when the no-snitch alternative very probably will land you in prison - depending on the severity of the crime and your ability to convince the prosecutors that you were unintenionally a party to a crime.
Hagar asked me to stay and have dinner with him. I wish I had. Because I highly respected him, in fact I admired him. Which I just don't have the ability to do with many people with whom I meet from time to time.
He was so intelligent. But I did not want to bother him and realized later that just the opposite would have been the case. He was needing someone to talk with and he liked me as I too liked him. I would not have been a bother to him as I had come to expect of peoples initial response to me.
The next time I heard about Hagar, perhaps a month later, I was meeting with one of the assistant prosecuters (not on a legal matter but peronal matter). I asked about Hagar as he knew him too. He said that Hagar had committed suicide not too long after I had that meeting with him. Perhaps it was inappropriate for me to ask how he had done it, committed suicide. The assistant attorney general said, "He shot himself in the mouth." Even today, many decades later, it hurts me to think about this happening and in that manner. I wish I had stayed for dinner. I guess that also would have applied if I had said, YES, when he asked me to go in with him on the holdup. I'm glad I said to him, "Glenn I'd rather not." But I suppose if I had just said a solid "NO!" it would have been more forceful and he might have had second reservations. As it was, he must have figured he could go ahead and pull-off the job and I wasn't going to say nothing.
His only reply was said in a soft voice, as though he really was disappointed in my decision. He said, "OK, but don't be a Tennessee Volunteer." I replied to him, also in a soft voice, "OK" and left it at than. He right turned, and best as I recall - going left took him onto Mississippi avenue - the life insurance company where Harold Whaum was the CEO. 123 Mississippi. That's the problem with Associative Memory. You'll be talking with a friend who lives in the Kentucky Big hills in the Easter part of KY (where I live, the more centeral part - the "hills" are better described as nubs protruding from the ground, small lumps.) - and my friend will say to me, "Nenad, I'll see ya tomorra if the crick don't rise", and any normal person would figure as how he's saying he's got a crick in his neck and hopes it won't turn into a lump. For me, what flashes in my mind is this guy, Francis Crick - the guy who come up with the DNA stuff along with another doctor, a James Watson.
What do you think of them? I don't know which one is which and it would take too long to do the analysis. But that's what Associative Memory is about. To the outside world (outside to me) its weird. I know this hasn't got much to do with a robbery and murder but it does explain how I can remember so far back. But it does have its interestubg aspects becasue people come to think you're an oddity and they are either amused or repelled like the same ends of a magnet.
Any how these were two of the great scientists in the early 1950s.
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